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Biafra: The Great State of Biafra Is Strong and Alive!

Biafra: The Great State of Biafra Is Strong and Alive! New York[RR]New York–When I read some writers, detractors and enemies of peoples’ survival and existence write tirelessly and meaninglessly with venoms, with embellished concocted explanations of what they understand, and see as Biafra/Biafrans, I laugh. This groups and individuals regardless of their ages, their pedigrees […]

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Biafra: The Great State of Biafra Is Strong and Alive!

New York[RR]New York–When I read some writers, detractors and enemies of peoples’ survival and existence write tirelessly and meaninglessly with venoms, with embellished concocted explanations of what they understand, and see as Biafra/Biafrans, I laugh. This groups and individuals regardless of their ages, their pedigrees in interdisciplinary orthodoxies introspectively found within the four walls of intellectual establishments, yet unlettered on many matters, especially when it comes to the idea, Biafra. This notwithstanding, one is prompted to respond to groups and entities with foregoing dispositions and indeed needs do all within its powers as h/she possibly can to educate and enlighten them or remind them further for record purposes. For other considerations, I encourage these groups, to go and do their research properly. This is because when it comes to what Biafra really represents to Ndiigbo, Nigeria and the world they might discover a world of wisdom for their children and grandchildren. Let there be no contradictions or confusion, Biafra is a republic, a geopolitical space and a great nation.

“Because time itself is like a spiral, something special happens on your birthday each year: The same energy that God invested in you at birth is present once gain.” – Menchem Mendel Mchneerson

On May 30, 1967 in pursuit of their self-determination armed with the Peoples Consultative Assembly and the Advisory Committee of Chiefs and Elders, the two only functioning political bodies in the Eastern region, with the massive killings of Ndiigbo and those that look like them, by the Arab-Muslim fundamentalists in the North and elsewhere, after considerable intensive re-assessments and re-evaluations, ordered Lieutenant-Colonel Odumegwu Ojukwu to declare secession of the Eastern Region from Nigeria and establishment without further delays the Republic of Biafra. The Peoples Republic of Biafra was amongst other things were meant and definitely instituted to put to a stop the bleeding of its peoples and fortification of its defenses, in defense of its peoples and territory. The causes of the actions that ensued are traceable to the pogrom that dates back to 1934 through Maiduguri 2006. These and many other inter-generational ills, discriminatory practices, marginalization and containment policies against the enterprise – Igbo, by fed, cannot be overemphasized. Regardless of rescue operations recently deployed by this administration, for example, the appointment of Paul Dike to the top rank of Service Chief position, 39 years later is in short too little too late maneuver. What has sustained the idea Biafra amongst other things is continuous existence of the aforementioned pathological pandemics predicated on unattended pillages and unprecedented breakdown of law and order across the land and, premeditatedly designed to sustain and secure plunderers, liars, looters, mischief makers, and their friends and by so doing, these illegitimate actions squandered the golden hand shake across the Niger by Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu – evidently and thusly, sustaining the disposition and other considerations here and elsewhere that the idea Biafra, is a better idea for Ndiigbo and many other responsible Nigerians and Nigeria-State. By application, this response of inactions and actions by fed showcases the fact that live is not guaranteed within the Nigeria political space, especially when it comes to these massive killings. Igbo has therefore, revealed or unveiled new doctrine called Igbo-Doctrine. Armed with this new doctrine, Ndiigbo and law abiding Nigerians have been warned to prepare itself and defend itself, within this unchartered frontier, to fight to a stand-still from and within the space they were attacked as this shall be backed-up by a speedy response across the Eastern landscape. This measure is our God given right in defense of our family, elderly and our children. The nation has been warned.

We all know that 2007 is filled with measures of uncertainties and 1966 issues/concerns are yet to be addressed, just like today, 2919 is filled with measures of uncertainties and 1966 issues/concerns, Fulani-herdsmen extrajudicial killings are yet to be addressed. Corruption and greed then, corruption and greed today are unprecedented. It has become clear that Obasanjo and his cronies will gamble and heat up yet again the body polity; just like today, Mohammadu Buhari and his fulani cronies will attempt fate, gamble and heat up again the body polity.  Third term manipulations will be a child’s play considering the contextual theatrical jibes of the actors of this experiment called Nigeria.

By 1967, at the heat of these and similar precipices, one Anthony Eromosele Enahoro arguing against Biafra has this to say in London: “If secession by Ojukwu and his group is accomplished, Nigeria will most probably disintegrate… and a chain reaction will be set up all over Africa. Africa would end up in petty little principalities. Each successor ‘mini state’ would be sovereign enough to acquire foreign protectors and purchase arms. Such situation, with its inevitable dislocations and frictions over boundaries, trade and division of assets, would produce wars.” Some decades later, the same Anthony Enahoro and Olusegun Obasanjo have a different tune and speak with both sides of their months… By July 2, 2002, Enahoro remarked at a Polo Club, Lagos:

“Given our traumatic experience, I suggest that the following question is pertinent: should the constitution allow for the ultimate change of secession? In the past, this issue has been treated as a taboo topic but the absence of thought and debate on this matter is a poor substitute of judgment. Obasanjo has helpfully opened discussion on it in his book This Animal Called Man, wherein he stated that any future constitution of Nigeria must provide for a right of secession. This is but recognition of the reality that, short of brute force, the only way that different nationalities can be kept together in the long term is by their will to stay together.” This apparently is a new trend for a man whose interviews and public proclamations indeed impeded or resisted even the creation of Midwest. It is therefore clear that, “those who do not learn from History are damned to repeat it…” George Santayana.

As we celebrate the declaration of the great republic – Biafra on May 30, 1967, a battle of attrition executed gallantly and fearlessly, we remember with pride and honor that it was the right thing to do to secure or existence. The actions and freedom of three years which, actions and freedom was differed in January 15, 1970 is up and running again through peaceful means manned by MOSSAB. The Sun has risen and lighted again east of the Niger and this time around we will not blink because Biafrans will never forget the events that led to the massacre of over 6 million of our men, women, children and old people that culminated to the birth of your statehood, a statehood predicated and born in the defense of your family, children, heritage, religion and humanity. For the unlearned, Biafra is a people, Biafra is Igbo; it is our survival and protection of our identity and industriousness; it is our humanity and our heritage. Without the bravery of our men and women who fought gallantly to protect our villages, territorial waters and lands, the likes of Ngozi Okonjo Iweala, Ekwesiliezes and others would not have survived or lived to have their opportunities today. We owe it to the great men and

Women, who acted with candor, resiliency, gallantry and commitment in the defense of the motherland; these heroes braved the incessant bombardments and were necessary paid the supreme sacrifice by laying down their lives for the sake of their friends, follow Biafrans, their motherland and their dignity. We remember, revere and adore these great men and women, living and fallen heroes today and forever. All hail thee Biafra. Without your volunteerism, Ndiigbo would have been destroyed off of its earth-plate by bloodthirsty Arab-Islamic fundamentalists, enemies of righteousness, enemies of God.

Obafemi Awolowo, an opportunist and other opportunists like him including Anthony Enahoro waged a war of treachery, a war of criminality and a war of opportunism; they accomplished this criminality by blockading food from international community from entering Biafra territories. The deployment of starvation as a means to starve off Biafra volunteerism predicated on their determination for self-determination, in an effort to free itself from foreign dominance real and imagined within its frontiers is self-evident. We remember your crimes, hypocrisies, chameleonism against humanity and you will pay one by one. As long as the spirit of Biafra lives, so does Biafra. Long live Biafra. Long live motherland.

As we review past and present situations, it is important that we call Ndiigbo and sundry to support MASSOB and its members across our land for championing a just and equitable cause for a just society. This is imperative, just as Arewa and Oduduwa and others within this classification serve the interest of their tribes and regions there is nothing wrong in having our young men and women fortifying our space. There are no pretensions that tribalism and ethnicity is first the beginning of our own statehood, without it there is no Nigeria. To postulate the craziness of the fraudulent and pretended engineering, nationalism was deferred. This was practically displayed by even the barbaric Abacha. Abacha wanted the nation to adopt French language as nation’s second language after English language. This is irresponsibility, way ahead of the three major tribal languages – Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba. That’s how crazy and mundane this place is. Not until there is a true nationalism amassed with sincerity, built and based on enduring sustainable nationalistic tendencies that would produce and trigger a viable progressive enterprise for the good of our peoples there will be no turning back.

I understand some of my colleagues on the other side of the equation will be pretty much disappointed in me having served as NANS Chief Mobilization Officer [CMO] at the national level, were we made a significant impact vis-à-vis June 12 experiment. However, let me say this, dear friends accept my sympathies. Please note that we live in ever changing world and, I am communicating based on the realities on the ground. And, this reality is about life and dead. Since 1999 to 2006, over 20,000 Ndiigbo, men, women, elderly and children have being Balkanized under Obasanjo’s watch and machinations. It is pertinent to ask were would my help come from? As it stand, either by commission or omission, may say that evil triumph in our society because good men do nothing, this is in addition to the lawlessness that has besieged and a-washed our society. Indeed, one is left to himself and his community, left to self-determination to be or not to be part of this arrangement. The chance to provide security and restore law and order to its region, for this reason our people and our families comes first. Historical documents show that regionalism was the original master plan before the Lord Lugard’s British creationism of 1914; of course this criminal creationism served the interest of the British Empire and its vassal states with its African late-comers at one end, and, their greedy beneficiaries that serves as its atlantics interlocutor or, links on the other end.

We shall return to the right to and control of our geopolitical space and claim anew our right to our territorial integrity in any circumstance. It is therefore, pretty clear that there exist a trajectory, contradictions, conflicts between people’s right to self-determination and a nation’s coerced territorial integrity based on black-gold [oil]; there is also additionally, conflict of freedom and unity built on treachery and fraud. UN charter allows for self-determination found in No. 48, 49 of self-determination documentation. But some of its characteristics are self-evident namely I] it shall be a government based on the will of the people; II] freedom from internal and external dominance; III] freedom to pursue economic, cultural and, social development; IV] freedom to enjoy fundamental human rights; V] the absence of discrimination based on ethnicity, religion and or political beliefs.

Recent and past Case studies:

We have witnessed several nations who have seceded or attempted to secede from oppressive govermentalities based on doctrine and rule of self-determination. East Timor as a non-self governing in the 60s, Quebec seceded from Canada on many occasions although by 1998 the Canadian top Court-Supreme ruled against that; Biafra attempted and failed to secede from Nigeria and lunched into three year bitter civil war.

East Timor

By 1999, the UN Security Council reached agreement with the Portugal and Indonesia to allow the people of East Timor to vote on a special autonomy within Indonesia frontiers. Registered voters voted overwhelmingly to move on as independent state. UN was successful in East Timor.

Quebec

This is pretty contradictory to the success in East Timor. By 1998, the Quebec government asked the supreme court of Canada if there are possibilities for Quebec to secede on self-determination based on international law or based on Canadian constitution. The court shutdown Quebec dreams as its population voted against it self-determination quest. What an irony.

Biafra

In 1914 British administrator introduced the amalgamation of Northern and Southern protectorates and Lagos colony, this move was pretty unpopular amongst these populations. Nothing is similar amongst these groups. Not even the language or culture or anything is similar except that they somehow look alike or imbibes the hueism or similarity of color skin. Hausa-Fulani in the North, the Yoruba in the West and the Igbo in the East, and, by the time independent came the three regional powers were threatening secessions. Suspicion, envy and others set the stage. Young Igbo military officers destabilized the center installed Umunnakwe Aguiyi-Ironsi as military head and within the space of six months there was a counter coup that brought in Yakubu Gowon [Jack] to power the rest is history, they say. This whole drama, including the killings and displacement of Ndiigbo threw the republic into war.

In addition, just recently Montenegro under the watchful eye of the UN Observer mission, with fewer than 5 million followed through with referendum that determined their self-determination and two weeks or so ago, they are free from treachery in, Kosovo. If UN was to move its machinery into Nigeria with its observer mission, the situation will be an astounding 90% in yes for Biafra. Yes Ndiigbo will vote in mass to extricate itself from current experiment, called Nigeria. In the meantime, many MASSOB leaderships are unlawfully held in incarceration or jails; we call for their immediate release from these criminal and unlawful detentions, unconditionally by the government of Nigeria.

In conclusion, it’s important to reiterate the significant of self-determination call by Ndiigbo. To free Igbo from these illegalities including corruption and contradictions found inside and outside this whole enterprise, Nigeria. For those who are wondering about the Igbo race and its dream for self-determination and the actualization of Republic of Biafra, know yeah this day that we are more determined today, organized, mobilized, stronger more than any other time in history. Those who think we are not united must think again. We might sound differently on issues, that happens because we are republicans and believe in the rule of law, freedom of expression within our political space, freedom which our engineering and democracy was showcased for three years of freedom. Freedom is our heritage, we will not comprise that under no circumstance. Make no mistake, when handshake turns into shoving, it shall be revealed unto you that our body politics is our body unity. By application, it is essential that the government of the day do the right thing. We are racing against time. It must be a must do item that Ndiigbo wherever they may be, at home or in Diaspora, must support self-determination. This has become critical that, if, after 45 years of existence, our extraction will not be allowed the opportunity to produce the president of the enterprise, Nigeria. I hear someone remarked at some quarters that this administration appointed more Igbo than any administration in history.

This writer’s response to that remark is this, vote for Igbo presidency, so that we can also have the same opportunity to not only appoint you Ministers and other places of positions but, we will appoint the right and qualified individuals to these positions better than any other group in the history of Nigeria, way better more than any other major tribe[s] have done, past and present including, Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba. We have displayed this capacity in the past, and, we can do it again. It is insulting to hear commentaries like the aforementioned appointment piece of Niigbo by this administration and all. It is relevant to protect people’s freedom, and people’s right to live, worship were, how and whenever they pleases. It’s called freedom of religion. Both Nigerians and Biafrans can live together with equal opportunity when it comes to running the system[s], resource allocations, employment, and restoration of peace and similarly, systemically re-structure, a better measured security conscious society for the safety and security of our peoples, and thusly, value is placed on the essence, the sanctity and divinity of human life at all time. No nation can thrive under lawlessness and corruption. Let me finally state that after 39 years of our existence, the great State of Biafra is stronger, better organized and ubiquitously alive. Biafra will be, Nigeria will be.

Carlisle U.O. Umunnah

Executive Director, International Human Rights Monitor, IHRM,
Publisher, Republic Reporters New York

This piece was first published on May, 2006.
Contact us at: RepublicReporters@gmail.com
May, 2006

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Jun 5, 2006 , 04:13 PM #2
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eeeh yah. bros, I feel your pain o. But my guy, all that talk is only wishful thinking and I’ll tell you why in a moment.

You see, I’m pretty certain many Igbo wish as you do for an independent Biafra and I agree that a true referendum will come to the same conclusion. Unfortunately, those of you who think this way are voiceless, those that really matter dont give a **** what you think.

When I say those that really matter, don’t think I am refering to Obasanjo and/or the Northern elite. No no no. Those that really matter are your Igbo leaders and elite. Yes, those same group of elites (Ojukwu and your local chiefs/leaders/elites) that declared Biafra the first time. My guy, only they can muster the resources (political,economic etc) neccesary to bring attention to your cause. Only when they believe what you believe is there any hope that you can put enough pressure on the international community to rally to your cause. Just think the diplomatic and economic power you would have if the Anyaokus, Achebes, Soludos, Kalus, Ojukwus, Ekwuemes, Okonjo-Iwealas etc etc etc all decide with one voice to pursue the Biafran dream.
But like I said they don’t give a **** about your cause.

Your elites would adopt your cause only after strong enough pressure/opportunity e.g the progrom of 1966. I assure you, it is extrememly unlikely for anything that rash to happen again. The Northern elite have learned their lesson. These days they ration the shedding of Igbo blood – not too much as to give your elites a good enough reason to push for secession, but enough to drive patriots like yourself mad.

Again, your elites,like their counterparts everywhere else dont care (enough) about the Biafran dream .
The question then of course is why don’t they care? Why?

If I would hazard a guess,, I think the answer lies in the pragmatic nature of your people that has helped them so well in business. Forget patriotism. Why should they stress themselves about Biafra when there is money and power to be had in Naija? After all, your elite have never really been ‘marginalized’. Its the only masses. Your elite have in fact done very well for themselves. Many of your businesmen are thriving all over Naija, even in Kano where their poorer kinsman are occasionaly massacred. Perhaps these businessmen and elite write these killing off as acceptable business losses!

hmmm.

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This is an example of the nonsense that some frustrated Nigerians write about on the internet.

And when the CNN copy ideas from these types of nonsensical vituperations, some other Nigerians will be asking for the head of the CNN instead of the heads of the foolish, disoriented dreamers in our midst.

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Ha! Ha! Ha! Haaaaaaaa! – Phew!

Wow!

Another great script from the lands of ‘Aki and Paw-Paw’.

God! Can’t wait to buy my copy of the VCD.

Brilliant and exceptionally hilarious!

My ribs are cracking!

Waiyo Allah!

He! He! Heeeeeeeeeee! (tears in my eyes)

Shege Umunnah!
You are the ‘Greatest’!
Wallahi!

Bobo!
I noticed your effort at suppressing the use of
Chief Zeburudaya (alias 4:30) style English in the script,
Man! let it go!
Thats the killer.

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What fools like Adamu and Tsohon soja do not realise is that, seccession is easier today,than it was in 1967. Reasons are clear enough,the dynamics that led the British to give overwhelming support to Nigeria has changed. Poverty and domination by the North has continued in Nigeria,such that those who supported one Nigeria before,are today questioning the very idea.

The united nations is increasingly getting involved in conducting referendums to determine seccesion as can be seen in East Timor, Montenegro,Kosovo etc.

For most Igbo and indeed Nigerians 2007, will be the final drawing of the line.The way it is handled will determine if Nigeria will survive or not.

Tsohon soja you can laugh your “Gworro mouth” all you like,but i tell you,America has predicted Nigeria’s breakup. There might be things which ordinary people like us may not know,that the Americans know,so there is no need to laugh yet, let us wait and see.

As for the Igbo,it is almost certain that the Igbo will fight again,and this time Nigeria cannot win. The final push by over 40 million Igbo will be the final unravelling of Nigeria. So many people will die,but it will be the final and neccesary road to freedom.

Iraq is a good example,that insurgency warfare cannot be won.For Nigeria the clock is ticking.

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My people,

All living things with the exception of plants can be classified as animals. Of all these living things, “man” is the highest animal. We have higher IQ’s. We act with reason. Most of our actions are steeped in logic. That way, we are able to define our personal space, while recognizing that other human beings deserve their own space. We are also able to fight for our rights, while recognizing the rights of others.

This are the basic premise upon which civilization is built, so that the human spirit can rise and blossom. It is this recognition that encouraged emerging polities in the 16th century to recognize that self-determination for a group who find themselves in strange and uncomfortable political contraptions can decide to ask for their freedoms. This is exactly what biafrans are asking.

What baffles me is how the word Biafra elicits rabid excitement among Nigerians. There has been calls by groups from Yorubaland, the minorities in the Niger Delta for a seperate state, and nobody bats an eyelid. Why is it different with Biafra?

I would expect sane and sensible people who think that the idea of Biafra is a bad idea to convince me as to why I should love Nigeria; to convince me as to the reason why they love me so much that they would love to have me in Nigeria. But they have done none of these. Rather, each time someone raises the issue of Biafra, I read and hear vituperations anchored on hatred; the kind that makes Biafra an attractive alternative. When someone writes that the North have learnt their lessons, and that is why they kill Igbo people piecemeal, he thinks it is funny. And this same faceless individual wants me to be a Nigerian. He wants me to be angry, but I thank him for helping to keep Biafra alive.

There is nothing on the ground that shows Nigeria has learned any lessons from her recent past. It is surprising that most Nigerians think that ther is no difference between 1967 and 2006. And this is going to be their waterloo.

Biafra is a must, but I do not know when. The spirit is alive, and when its time comes, there is nothing Nigeria can do about it. When the idea is in the minds of the people, even those who were not born in 1970, there is something wrong with Nigeria. Surprisingly, Nigerians are so comfortable with Nigeria as it is. Biafrans are not, and are not given the opportunity to make a difference, hence the idea of Biafra. As I have said before, and continue to say, Nigeria will make Biafra happen.

Time will tell.

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Quote Originally Posted by pukpabi

As I have said before, and continue to say, Nigeria will make Biafra happen.
My Oga Pukpabi,

Your quote above is noteworthy. I have to agree that unless Nigeria is fundamentally restructured, fault lines will continue to widen and ideas like Biafra will gain currency. That said, could you kindly provide me with sources for your quote below:

… There has been calls by groups … the minorities in the Niger Delta for a seperate state…
To the best of my (little) knowledge, the people of the Niger delta have called for resource ownership, not a separate state.

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Biafra is DEAD, BURIED and NO MORE!

AND Ndiigbo has sacrificed for the making of Nigeria into what Nigeria is today; Ndiigbo has too much at stake in Nigeria to abandon her now!

Ndiigbo has invested too much in sweat, tears and blood and real Ndiigbo say no to Biafra! Real Ndiigbo should join me in saying, we are not going anywhere outside Nigeria!

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Hi, Maazi Carlisle O.U. Umunah!

For you personal enlightenment, East Timor was to Indonesia, as the Niger Delta was to Biafra: crude oil and natural gas were the triggers for bloody conflict in both cases.

The key motivations for secession and the subsequent declaration of a sovereign state of Biafra were predicated on the petroleum resources of the Niger Delta region, rather than the alibi provided by a series of unjustifiable and barbaric acts of ethnic cleansing inflicted on Ndiibo in Northern Nigeria, and parts of Western Nigeria, prior to the civil war.

Muchas gracias, mi amigo, Señor Carlisle Umunnah (Maazi).

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@Wallaceboo,in your ignorance you continue to make the mistake that only Igbos are killed in the North.It is true that most of those killed are Igbos for the simple reason that Igbos are more migratory and more visible,as they display their wares in the streets.While most other Nigerians are too afraid to venture to the North.

But the fact remains that those less than human Northerners whose stock in trade is killing people,do not distinguish,they kill any christian in sight. Infact even Yoruba muslims are also killed,because they dont consider Yoruba muslims to be genuine muslims.

During the last killings,there was a catholic father Fr Gajere who was killed in borno,that father must have been from Delta state.

A lot of people even ignore the fact that Northern christians are killed as well,as we saw recently in jos,and the very bloody Zango kataf riots that happened sometime ago.

Trying to make the killings an Igbo affair is foolhardy. But my advice to wallaceboo is go and live in Sokoto,when the killings begin,come out in public,and let’s see if you life will be spared because you are not Igbo.Ewu!

@EAZEEBEE, Asari Dokubo,has consistently asked for a separate state.Go and read his last interview before he was arrested.

@ABRAXAS, East timor, has gone with their oil but Indonesia has not collapsed. Oil is only relevant for people who cannot use their heads,and that is what is killing Nigeria.
The richest and greatest nations do not have oil. Germany does not have oil, Japan does not have oil etc. etc. What they have is their brains and they are better for it.Even your oil is being drilled here in Nigeria for you by those who have the brains,and i can tell you that the oil companies are making more money than Nigeria.

Besides Ndigbo have some oil as well, and are the only group that is supporting resource control for the Niger-Delta 100%, go and check the records of the National political reforms conference.

However dont forget that one day the oil will run dry,when that happens i will see how your lazy arses will survive. ABRAXAS i strongly advice you to visit Oloibiri,where the first oil well that has now run dry was located. Your experience after visiting Oloibiri will be an eye opener,as to what the future of your Niger-Delta will be when the oil wells dry up.Beware!

What you dont know is that Without oil most of the Niger-Delta would be totally useless. There is even no land to farm,as most of the areas are creeks and swamps.Of what use will creeks and swamps be to anybody?

The greatest difference between the blackman,and the Whiteman is that while the Blackman plans for only today and tommorrow,the Whiteman plans for more than 100 years ahead of their time. Today everybody in Nigeria is struggling for oil, none has ever bothered to look ahead to 40 or 50 years time when the oil wells might have dried up,or when cheaper alternatives might have been discovered.

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Quote Originally Posted by Tony

@EAZEEBEE, Asari Dokubo,has consistently asked for a separate state.Go and read his last interview before he was arrested.

However dont forget that one day the oil will run dry,when that happens i will see how your lazy arses will survive. ABRAXAS i strongly advice you to visit Oloibiri,where the first oil well that has now run dry was located. Your experience after visiting Oloibiri will be an eye opener,as to what the future of your Niger-Delta will be when the oil wells dry up.Beware!

What you dont know is that Without oil most of the Niger-Delta would be totally useless. There is even no land to farm,as most of the areas are creeks and swamps.Of what use will creeks and swamps be to anybody?
Thanks, Tony. If you consider Asari Dokubo as a spokesman for the entire Niger Delta region, you are entitled to that opinion.

Like you, I am VERY aware that the so-called oil will run out. I’d just as soon have it run out TODAY if it will take the talons of the other areas of Nigeria out of the flesh of the Niger Delta. However, I disagree with you that “most of the Niger-Delta would be totally useless”. Water, sea-breezes and scenery will ALWAYS have currency in human affairs. I just can’t WAIT to begin the exploration of developments tied to these.

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What is all this Biafra/Nigeria thing going on. Could we all live as one and forget Biafra. I understand Biafra (I am one too, for goodness sakes) was defeated, but hey, lets get up dust ourselves and keep going. We have a future to create for our children and the unborn generation, why are we going on with this spirit of division and war? We are here tearing our underwears hailing Ojukwu and his civil war cronies and they are at home enjoying themselves with their “n”th wife. Abeg, make we cool down joo. I love my fellow Nigerians from other parts of the country that is not Biafra and I do not want to separate, YOU HEAR ME, I BELIEVE IN ONE NIGERIA!

If the northerner and the southerners are killing themselves because of religion or the likes, it is because of propagandas like this fueled by mindless beings from both quarters that do not like peace. They are only happy when there is death and bloodshed…demon bloodsuckers. I’m sorry, I refuse to allow you people any more blood to guzzle for no tangible reason. Open your own guts and find more blood, not from the innocent Nigerian people, if your blood bank/reserve from the civil war is running dry and you need some more.

And if any war ever breaks out in Nigeria again as a result of all these nonsense, I pray that you and your families be the first ones to die, since you enjoy death and dying so much and hate reasonable peace. That you’ll never have any one from your breed to tell the after tale, that no one will ever remember you people to eulogize or hail your stupid bravery. Foolish people!

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Quote Originally Posted by GirlWifanAttitude
What is all this Biafra/Nigeria thing going on. …

If the northerner and the southerners are killing themselves because of religion or the likes, it is because of propagandas like this fueled by mindless beings from both quarters that do not like peace…

And if any war ever breaks out in Nigeria again as a result of all these nonsense, I pray that you and your families be the first ones to die, since you enjoy death and dying so much and hate reasonable peace. That you’ll never have any one from your breed to tell the after tale, that no one will ever remember you people to eulogize or hail your stupid bravery. Foolish people!

GirlwifanAttitude! If no be say I be Reverend Father, I for propose with all the attitude at my disposal! However, like Maria for ‘Sounds of Music’, e be like say, my vows don dey shake.

(a) Useless people siddon for ireland, london, canada, india, America dey propound violence on the basis of tribes and religion.

(b) Useless Nigerian elite: IBB, Atiku, Bode George, Adedibu, OBJ, Annenih, Nzeribe, Nnamani, Odili, Duke, Abacha, Diya, Alamasiegha, Fani- kayode, Uba etc etc dey siddon to discuss how naija go dey reverse on the basis of their stomach and long throat.

Innocent and poor naija folks wey no know nothing about (a) and (b) above na im dey suffer the most.

God deliver us from the ignorance of (a) and the wickedness of (b).

Deliver us from the tribalists who masquerade as ethnic patriots.

Deliver us from thieves who wear the garb of nationalism.

Deliver us from opportunists who are waiting to reap from hate induced violence.

Deliver us from embittered sojourners who have taking overseas citizenship and residency and as a result want to turn naija into iraq.

God o! My State Governor is not performing at all at all. I cannot attribute his failure to the north, I cannot attribute it to the south, neither can I attribute to the east or west. I can only see one factor I can hold responsible. His STOMACH: the organ appears to be an insatiable pit!

God o! The senator from my zone has taken his share of both the pro and anti 3rd term package. He is yet to come home to give account. I am not sure whether his religious belief has a role to play in his very unsenatorial attitude.

Abeg GirlwifanAttitude, when next you see ya pastor helepu me boro small Holy Ghost fire make I take burn the mof of the yeye war mongers.

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Hi, folks!

Predictably, our very own local superhero and Don Quixote of Biafranism on the web, our good friend, Maazi Carlisle O.U. Umunnah, has had his fill of his monthly ration of intense ethnocentric masturbation, closely followed up with the usual chauvinistic and pseudo-supremacist accolades from the usual gang of Igbocentric xenophobes: Tony, pukpabi, and EezeeBee.

We look forward to the next instalment of prefabricated crap from the guru himself, Maazi Carlisle O.U. Umunnah.

Well, this is a good case example of the damage wars can cause: just 30 months only of conflict, and the trauma of Biafra still hangs on in the deeper recesses of the psyches of its victims like Maazi Carlisle O.U. Umunnah, Tony, pukpabi, and EezeeBee, even over 36 years after! You can imagine the long term damage done after 30 years of civil war in Angola, or Sudan, or after over 10 years of civil war in Liberia, or Sierra Leone?

Nigerians must resolve that NEVER AGAIN WILL THEY BE DRAGGED INTO ARMED CONFLICT, no matter how sweet the harbingers sing their songs of hatred.

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Quote Originally Posted by Abraxas

Well, this is a good case example of the damage wars can cause: just 30 months only of conflict, and the trauma of Biafra still hangs on in the deeper recesses of the psyches of its victims like Maazi Carlisle O.U. Umunnah, Tony, pukpabi, and EezeeBee, even over 36 years after! You can imagine the long term damage done after 30 years of civil war in Angola, or Sudan, or after over 10 years of civil war in Liberia, or Sierra Leone?

Nigerians must resolve that NEVER AGAIN WILL THEY BE DRAGGED INTO ARMED CONFLICT, no matter how sweet the harbingers sing their songs of hatred.

Don Juan Carlos ABRAXAS (III)
There is something called psychological trauma. When the war ended, a lot of people underestimated the level of physical and psychological damage, that the conflict inflicted on people from both sides.

‘Soldiers’ may have been demobilised, but ‘minds’ were not de-briefed or rehabilitated. A lot of that grief and hate was internalised, and passed on to subsequent generations. That is why young men under the age of 35, who cannot tell the difference between a gunshot and the back-firing of a car’s faulty silencer, are preaching hatred, in cyberspace.

It is also one reason why those who were too young to have recollections of the war, have worn defensiveness like a cloak and are romanticising the days of Biafra…seeing it as a solution to the malaise that plagues every tribe, in the Nigerian nation.

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@Abraxas, you are always masturbating this,or masturbating that, is that where your dictionary ends? or is it that you do not have a girlfriend with whom you can do the real thing?

Your So called Niger-Delta boys are busy fighting for their own rights in the creeks and swamps, i dont remember having heard you criticise them even for once,since you are supposed to be “mr Nigeria no 1″. But when the Igbos fighting for their own rights, talk of Biafra,you rise up from your spanish grave and remember masturbation.Stupid hypocrite. I have told you before, go and drink your oil in your useless creeks and swamps,when the oil runs dry,you will become beggars. Mark my words.

Ndigbo are not contending with your lazy arses, Ndigbo are contending with the whole of Nigeria. Ndigbo fought a fullscale war with a gangup of the rest of Nigeria,comprising,the north,yoruba,midwest, Eastern saboteurs and the British for 3 whole years under a situation of total blockade,yet they survived for 3 years,mind you it was not an insurgency warfare,it was full scale warfare. Go and read the book by FREDERICK FORSYTH on the war.

Call it boasting if you like, but i tell you today, that no group in Nigeria can face a coalition of other Nigerians like the Igbos did in a full scale war with British backing and last one month.

If your Niger-Delta boys think they can do it, let them come out from the creeks and commence full scale war with the Nigerian state, i tell you the Igbos alone will wipe them out in 2 days.

@Gwobezentashi, i have come to realise that you are a reasonable and articulate Northerner. Let us face certain facts.Any group of people who is seeking seccesion, must have their reasons. If there is justice,and if everybody has a sense of belonging,i tell you nobody will seek seccesion.

A situation were some people think they are born to rule,and conspire to deny other people a right to the presidency,what do you expect? i am sure you read what Reuben Abati wrote in his article recently where he said the North is opposed to Igbo presidency.How do you expect any Igboman to accept Nigeria under such a situation?
Nigeria just simply cannot eat her cake and have it.

Let me tell you Gwobe, if you were an Igbo you would feel the same way these guys are feeling. The war ended over 36 years ago,and we all know both sides made mistakes in the run up to the war, but Nigeria has refused to move on,and chosen to remain in the past. How can there be progress under such a situation?

Nigeria is a multi-ethnic nation,and anybody who truly loves Nigeria will strive to bury the ghosts of the past,and neccesarily carry everybody along,but as we all know Nigeria is not like that. Is it not a shame that the Igbo is producing the first airforce service chief almost 40 years after the war?

Have the killings in the North not continued almost 50 years later? My brother face the truth for once,how do you honestly expect Igbo people to be happy in Nigeria under such a scenario?

How would you feel if Igbos have been slaughtering Northerners in the East since 1945 todate and nobody is being punished? just tell me the truth how would you feel?
we all are witnesses to how Arewa threatened thunder and brimstone when muslims were killed in jos,but when christians are killed,you wont hear any comment from them. In all honesty Gwobe,tell me what kind of double standard and a nation is that? How do you expect that the Igbo will be happy with Nigeria when such double standards are so obvious?

Gwobe let me tell you,there are Northerners living right in the compound of my sisters husband in my hometown,but i cannot dream of touching even the hair of their skin,not to talk of killing them.

The truth is that Nigerians have chosen to bury their head in the sand pretending that all is well,but i tell you that attitude will not change anything. The only way things can change is when we speak out. Just this morning a woman posted a comment here on the forum on how she was nearly killed by mobile policemen in Port-Harcourt. Do you actually call such a country a normal country?

Here where i live,you can not even kill a dog and go free. That is the level of civilisation. You have to be more objective in your approach to issues. when people feel aggrieved,please be patient and try to find out the underlying causes why they feel the way they feel. I beleive that is the best approach,because as the saying goes, “he who wears the shoes,knows where it pinches”.

None of us has forgotten how the Yoruba’s called for seccesion over june 12,because they felt aggrieved.

Finally Gwobe, i would like you to write an article articulating your proposals on the way forward for Nigeria,and also proposals on how to put a final stop to the killings in the North that is threatening to turn Nigeria into another Iraq. Cheers.

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…closely followed up with the usual chauvinistic and pseudo-supremacist accolades from the usual gang of Igbocentric xenophobes: Tony, pukpabi, and EezeeBee.

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Abraxas, you clearly have a problem with comprehension, either that or you come to the discussion seriously hampered in the department of wits.

That I am able to read a long article and extract portions of it for further examination or expatiation appears to be incomprehensible to you.

In your monomaniacal manner, you consider the ability to ask deeper questions based on certain statements as signing on to the overall sentiments of an article.

Get your blinkers off, engage your brain in actual productive activity and read what I posted earlier on this thread; you will see that the comments you made above regarding me are invalid.

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Among some of biggest hurdles facing the realisation of Biafra is convincing our neighbours or brothers and sisters from surrounding ethnic / tribal groups, in fact within Nigeria, that this is the best idea and the ultimate solution to end the Nigeria nightmare.

Believe me, as time goes on we will all realise that we can do without each other; living in seperate smaller nations, where it is easy for leadership and management to be accountable, with less ethnic / tribal discrimination, prejudice and suspicions.

I dare the Yoruba, Edos, Hausas and every one in Nigeria to give the seperation an intelligent reflection and thought, and realise that at the end of the day as Igbos say “MMEGBU ADIGHI ATU URAH” translates “OPPRESSION KEEPS YOU AWAKE” equally punishing for both the oppressed and oppressors.

I hate and abhor this present Nigerian arrangement/ situation; my children, my grandchildren all having my Igbo blood and genes in them will also feel the same way.

The sooner the better we all peacefully go our different ways, emancipated, to realise our different destinies, potentials and actualisation, the better for all Nigerians.
Let us all be man and woman enough to stand together and say to the rest of the world “TO HELL WITH THIS POST COLONIAL PROJECT CALLED NIGERIA, THAT IS DRIVING HUMANITY BACKWARDS IN AFRICA”

At the end we will all be happy again, and live together, sharing defined and clear boundaries, co-exist, intermarry, trade, protect and look out for one anothers interest and fulfill our duties in the black family and African continent

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Hi, Mr. Tony!

Whenever you decide to take away the blinkers from your eyes, stand in front of a full-length mirror, and take an honest-to-GOD look at your pitiably brutalised self, you will come to terms with the inevitable and undeniable fact that, both metaphorically and in real-time, you have been, and are over-indulging in unrepentant and hard-core ethnocentric masturbation. Period!

The Freudian slips, and generally silly things that emanate from the cesspit of your demonstrably traumatised psyche, especially the several uncharitable insults that you effortlessly heap on the so-called “lazy” people of the Niger-Delta, and their so-called “useless creeks and swamps”, about how they would become beggars when the crude oil wells run dry, blah, blah, blah, speak volumes about both the dynamics and contribution of mindless and undue Igbocentric chauvinism in the speedy collapse of Biafra, some 36 years ago.

Finally, let me reassure you that both Villagers and visitors to the Square are all eagerly looking forward to the next instalment of prefabricated freeze-dried bull$hit from your spiritual guide, mentor and alter ego, Maazi Carlisle O.U. Umunnah, himself. I am confident that one day, some how, the deep-rooted trauma that was injected into your soul will surely fade away. I pray.

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Quote Originally Posted by Vaya con Dios
There is something called psychological trauma. When the war ended, a lot of people underestimated the level of physical and psychological damage, that the conflict inflicted on people from both sides.

‘Soldiers’ may have been demobilised, but ‘minds’ were not de-briefed or rehabilitated. A lot of that grief and hate was internalised, and passed on to subsequent generations. That is why young men under the age of 35, who cannot tell the difference between a gunshot and the back-firing of a car’s faulty silencer, are preaching hatred, in cyberspace.

It is also one reason why those who were too young to have recollections of the war, have worn defensiveness like a cloak and are romanticising the days of Biafra…seeing it as a solution to the malaise that plagues every tribe, in the Nigerian nation.
Vaya u got it right, not only were they not debriefed, they ought to have gone through theraphy in order to be properly rehabilitated. They were only physically rehabilitated and not psychologically rehabilitated. The hatred they feel for other Nigerians was suppressed, we are now seeing it coming out. 36years after a 30months war——the wound inflicted is deep—there was casualities from the federal and biafran side, we hardly hear anything from the families of the soldiers who died fighting on the federal side–may the lord help heal our people.

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Hi, EezeeBee!

I am awfully sorry to have mistakenly included your name in the conclave of xenophobes and chauvinists on the web. In fact, I concur, in toto, with your earlier remarks on Mr. Tony’s comments on this thread. Sorry for the unintended damage I may have caused your (obviously) very tender heart.

Apesadumbrado para el daño involuntario pude haber causado su corazón blando.

Muchas gracias, mi amigo.

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@Abraxas,you will die a hundred times before your actual death,because you are a coward,and a hypocrite. INFACT YOU ARE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITE ON THIS FORUM.A thoroughly traumatised man,consumed in your Igbophobia.

Have you not been going around in this forum,defending the Niger-Delta militants who have taken up arms? In your hypocrisy you think the Niger-Delta can protest against injusice,but the Igbo cannot,or should not. THE WORD IS HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remove the log in your eyes,before you see the dust in another man’s eye Ewu!

Get off your inferiority complex and lazy arse,and realise that self determination is a God given human right. Any group or groups has the right to ask for it. Montenegro just recently asked for it and got it. Mind you the population of Montenegro is less than one million. In spain where you are seeking refuge from the same Nigeria you claim to love so much, there are groups like ETA seeking self determination.

You are as cheap, as you are inferior,lazy,cowardly,lacking in any constructive ideas. Tell me where did you get the name Abraxas from? from a spanish ZOO?

If you dont have any meaningful contribution to make in this forum,keep your dirty fingers off your keyboard.

I doubt if it even makes any sense responding to a thoroughly confused pedestrian and slave like you.

Untill i read comments from you on this forum,condenming the Niger-Delta militants, i will no longer respond to you. Because you are obviously just a confused hypocrite,who actually needs (in your own words) some real “mental masturbation”!

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Hi, Mr. Tony!

I am confident that one day, some how, the deep-rooted trauma that was injected into your soul will surely fade away. I pray.

Muchas gracias, mi amigo.

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Dear Mr. OKE –

This will ackowledge receipt of your communication this day June 7, 2006. I careless where you came from. Whether you are Igbo, Hausa, or Yoruba. As always, response commuication always come my way after articles such as this. In any event, your mail is by no means an isolated situation but it’s welcome. Regarding your Chief Awolowo, not mine, your compatriot, not mine, my position is not compromised by any circumstance. He was a double edge sword. When he was released from jail at Calabar, by Dim Ojukwu, he had those meetings and agreed on them. Down the line he reneged. Banjo did the same thing they are both opportunists. Awo then took Ministerial appointment under Gowon and gave every Igboman 20 pound regardless of how much he or she had in the bank accounts in pre-war eras. Awo is a narcisist. The greatest tribalist what your so-called Nigeria ever produced. Even Obasanjo hated him. Awo won the 1979 elections but Obasanjo handed government to Shehu Musa Shagari. I know you are a youngman, but i encourage you to go and do you homework well and then write me. Again, am sorry, I don’t mean to hurt your feelings about your opportunistic leader: Awo. But truth be told Awo was and is still is an opportunist to the core.

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oke.o@o2.co.uk wrote:
Dear Mr Umunna,

Compliment of the season to you. I read with interest your article
about the above topic, l know your article was stern out of your love
and commitment toward your fatherland ( ancestral land ) Biafra but l
would like to differ on Chief Awolowo being an opportunist.

Firstly i am a Yoruba man and l was still a young man during the last
civil war many of my recollections of the war are from history or from
the older generation who actually witnessed the war.

It’s true that Chief Awolowo was in the cabinet of General Gowon
during the war but don’t let us forget that he was true Yoruba leader
who also believe in the Sovereignty of Oduduwa land, that brings to
mind of his famous phrase or statement that ‘If Biafra declares
independence that Oduduwa will follow suit”.That is he is ready to
pull Oduduwa out of the union of Nigeria.

So what does this say about him and why did he then act to end the war
that way? l think (1) we should look closely at what he ( Chief Awolowo
)discussed with Chief Ojukwu when they met shortly before the war,
don’t let us forget that Chief Awolowo was democrat. (2) Did Chief
Ojukwu renegade on some of the things they discussed afterwards. (3)
What was Biafran army doing at Ore which is part of Oduduwa land, after
all they are to defend Eastern part( it was known that the Biafran army
were coming to the then capital Lagos which is also part of Oduduwa ).

I recently heard from some of my Ibo friends that the decission to
cross over to Oduduwa territories was a mistake Chief Ojukwu himself
later regretted. Can l then ask what did you expect a leader who is
still trying to achieve total sovereingty through a domocratic means
for his beloved ancestral land Oduduwa to do in this type of
situatuion. (we should remember that Chief Awolowo believes in the
devolution of power to regions which is still the talk of the day and
which chief Ojukwu is also supporting now.

I personally think that Chief Awolowo does not really believe in this
system called Nigeria but wanted to achieve total indenpendence for
Oduduwa through democratic means which l am fully in support of. So let
us put the past away and focus on the future that is how the dream of
Chief Ojukwu and Chief Awolowo can be achieved in a peacefull and
democratic way. To achieve this we need to come together and start
somewhere which is what PRONACO is fighting for today. Thank you.

With regards

A. OKE

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Quote Originally Posted by OKE
Can l then ask what did you expect a leader who is
still trying to achieve total sovereingty through a domocratic means
for his beloved ancestral land Oduduwa to do in this type of
situatuion. (we should remember that Chief Awolowo believes in the
devolution of power to regions which is still the talk of the day and
which chief Ojukwu is also supporting now.

I personally think that Chief Awolowo does not really believe in this
system called Nigeria but wanted to achieve total indenpendence for
Oduduwa through democratic means which l am fully in support of. So let
us put the past away and focus on the future that is how the dream of
Chief Ojukwu and Chief Awolowo can be achieved in a peacefull and
democratic way. ..
How did you know that Awolowo was trying to achieve total sovereignty or total independence for Oduduwa? Was it stated in his memoirs?? Why does hearsay always take on a life of its’ own, by the time it is repeated a few times down the line?

As for the meeting between him & Chief Odumegwu Ojukwu, which has been cited many times over, I have always wished that eye-witnesses to that meeting, (NOT ear-witnesses o! And that includes third-hand information peddlers..too) would step forward, put their name in print and actually let us know what transpired at that meeting, by publishing the minutes, of that meeting. Simple…

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Dear Mr. OKE –
Regarding your Chief Awolowo, not mine, your compatriot, not mine, my position is not compromised by any circumstance. He was a double edge sword. When he was released from jail at Calabar, by Dim Ojukwu, he had those meetings and agreed on them. Down the line he reneged. Banjo did the same thing they are both opportunists. Awo then took Ministerial appointment under Gowon and gave every Igboman 20 pound regardless of how much he or she had in the bank accounts in pre-war eras. Awo is a narcisist. The greatest tribalist what your so-called Nigeria ever produced. Even Obasanjo hated him. Awo won the 1979 elections but Obasanjo handed government to Shehu Musa Shagari. I know you are a youngman, but i encourage you to go and do you homework well and then write me. Again, am sorry, I don’t mean to hurt your feelings about your opportunistic leader: Awo. But truth be told Awo was and is still is an opportunist to the core.

Peace –

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Hmnn….another ethnic-inspired response. Ah, that word “opportunist….”

Am not really a fan of Awo, but I often wonder: If someone used negative words, to describe Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu, what would be your response? Or if someone used such negative epithets to describe the late Sardauna of Sokoto, Alhaji Ahmadu Bello, do you think his kinsmen would give you a 21-gun salute?

Why can’t we make our points clearly, without degenerating into name-calling…and stirring up another round of ethnic-bashing..??

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Dear Vaya con Dios –

Great comment. Deep in your heart you and I know that Nigeria is a contraption build on regionalism and tribalism. Pretending that it doesn’t not exist is sheer delusional. If Dim has something that deserve him being treated as tribalist then do it. I think he was trying to uphold the laws of Nigeria by demanding that Brigadier Ogundipe who was a senior officer ahead of Gowon take over after Aguiyi Ironsi disappeared by Northern mutiniers.

“Hmnn….another ethnic-inspired response. Ah, that word “opportunist….”

Am not really a fan of Awo, but I often wonder: If someone used negative words, to describe Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu, what would be your response? Or if someone used such negative epithets to describe the late Sardauna of Sokoto, Alhaji Ahmadu Bello, do you think his kinsmen would give you a 21-gun salute?

Why can’t we make our points clearly, without degenerating into name-calling…and stirring up another round of ethnic-bashing..?? ”

It is not ethnic bashing. it is ethnic-realties and inter-generational, multiple-ethnic descriminations. Only a liar will say it doesn’t exist. The earlier we call a spade a spade the better. Truth is bitter but it is better.

Now, whether, it’s Sarduna, or Ahmadu Bello, Zik or any of your heroes, in that category please feel free to write about them and castigate them if they deserve it. But back it up with facts. I have backed up mine with facts and i can tell you this: truth is self-evidence. Nigeria is this steep hole today because we pretend and wallow in ingorance and mediocrity and imgined and sing, and wishfully assume it will get better on its own. But, that’s additional falsehood. And this falsity has derealed nation’s progresss. Change can only occur, if people desire and thirst for change. this can only happen if and when, individuals, individually and collectively go through internal revolution that will later on manifest in real life situation, change. If we lay back and think that God will come down and make these changes, make this sweeping re-structuring happen, we are only deceiving our ownselves. “The only thing to fear is fear itself” –T. Rooselvelt.

We don’t have much time left to play this gibbrished games. Systemically gaming and rubbishing the system, looting the state treasury by security vote is one of the greatest crime in the land. Check before delivery!

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Vaya Con Dios,
You are either a cocky individual or you need help. I am saying this based on your understanding of what people write here. You question people’s contribution by asking where the point they have made is stated. Points are based on many parameters. Even people on your side of reasoning will agree with me that you sometimes make mute deductions here; that not withstanding I see some effort on your part to be gentle or civil.

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Vaya Con Dios,
You are either a cocky individual or you need help. I am saying this based on your understanding of what people write here. You question people’s contribution by asking where the point they have made is stated. Points are based on many parameters. Even people on your side of reasoning will agree with me that you sometimes make mute deductions here; that not withstanding I see some effort on your part to be gentle or civil.

On the contrary Alilon, YOU are the one that needs help. Last time I checked, this was a public forum. If anyone pastes a comment on the web, he should expect that others will ask questions, on take him to task if such statements need to be substantiated. There is something called ‘viewpoint & perspectives.’

You claim “Points are based on many parameters.” True. So why do people find it so difficult to highlight those parameters, when they are asked? Or do you expect every individual to swallow hook, line & sinker any assertions that you make, even if they are baseless? I think not. If others have done so in the past where you are concerned, then am sorry, I will NOT jump on the bandwagon.

If that is an attitude that you find displeasing….or cocky, to paraphrase your words…so be it.

I rest my case.

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Dear Vaya con Dios –
Great comment. Deep in your heart you and I know that Nigeria is a contraption build on regionalism and tribalism. Pretending that it doesn’t not exist is sheer delusional. If Dim has something that deserve him being treated as tribalist then do it. I think he was trying to uphold the laws of Nigeria by demanding that Brigadier Ogundipe who was a senior officer ahead of Gowon take over after Aguiyi Ironsi disappeared by Northern mutiniers.
A contraption? It is a pity that you feel that way. I do not see my country in that light. But then you are free to choose whatever adjectives catch your fancy, to describe Nigeria. You have said “If Dim has something that deserve him being treated as tribalist then do it.” Well, I have met quite a couple of Eastern minorities who feel that he is. It is a question of perspectives.
http://www.nigerdeltacongress.com/ma…_the_story.htm

N.H Ibanga an Ibibio man, claims that Dim Ojukwu made some comments that could be interpreted in an unfavourable light, by giving credence to rumours that if the war had been won by the East, Ibibio towns would have been renamed against the wishes of their inhabitants. He states: “Thirty-one years after the war, none other than the former leader of Biafra, the Ikemba Nnewi, repeated the husband/wife statement in an interview regarding the relationship between the Igbo and Akwa Ibom people. It was then that those who had believed the original “rumor” turned around to tell those of us who were skeptical during the war, “we told you so”. It was then easy to believe that had Biafra succeeded, there would be no Calabar today but New Onitsha. Will any Igbo person tell me that if the situation was reversed and Onitsha was to be renamed New Calabar after the war, they would have given 100% support to the effort to eradicate their culture? Be honest to yourself!

We have not complained since the war ended. At this time one must ask, who will compensate us for suffering and loses we sustained from a war we did not start? Are you going to compensate us for these losses and all the children that Kwashiokor killed? Our neck of the woods had been under benign neglect before the war. I remember Okpara refusing to repair a bridge in Ekpene Ukpa despite being given seven cows by the people there. That same bridge could have collapsed under the weight of his entourage and he would have perished. After the war, till today, that same bridge is still in disrepair. Whatever the war destroyed has not been fixed in our area. When will these be fixed? We need our war reparations now.”

Concerning your penchant for attacking anything that is remotely Nigerian, I wish to remind you & Alilon that not all Nigerians share your view. The fact that they do NOT share your dislike of anything Nigerian, does not make them less intelligent or make their views ‘gibberish.’ Again, it is a question of perspectives. I would like to refer you to an article on this website titled:NIGERIAN HATERS & THEIR CHILDISH RANTS. It can be found under this link: http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/…k=view&id=3222

The writer Emmanuel Chukura Achife stated: ”
Fast forward to this era in the country where most of us have access to school, live in towns and cities with relatively good transportation network yet some of us blame the country for their own personal failings and will wish Nigeria to fail just to prove their idiocy and lack of will power to affect changes. They are the Nigerian haters. These group of Nigerians who are hell bent in seeing the country fail are either living here in Nigeria or abroad…..
…. They see themselves above dirty hands and creativity and would rather have someone else do the job while they spend the days attacking and destroying the country that gave them so much for free and demanded nothing in return. They fall over themselves to prove through private conversations, print and electronic media on who is more hateful of the country as a way to prove their “intellectual” abilities”.

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Dear Vaya con Dios –
It is not ethnic bashing. it is ethnic-realties and inter-generational, multiple-ethnic descriminations. Only a liar will say it doesn’t exist. The earlier we call a spade a spade the better. Truth is bitter but it is better.
No one denies that ethnicity exists. But pepetuating it, by calling other people nasty names & spewing forth hate-filled diatribes, will NOT bring it to an end. It will merely fuel it. You have not offered one constructive & objective suggestion (apart from your Biafra option), that will put an end to this ethnic problem.

Quote Originally Posted by Umunnah
Dear Vaya con Dios –
Now, whether, it’s Sarduna, or Ahmadu Bello, Zik or any of your heroes, in that category please feel free to write about them and castigate them if they deserve it. But back it up with facts. I have backed up mine with facts and i can tell you this: truth is self-evidence. Nigeria is this steep hole today because we pretend and wallow in ingorance and mediocrity and imgined and sing, and wishfully assume it will get better on its own. But, that’s additional falsehood. And this falsity has derealed nation’s progresss. Change can only occur, if people desire and thirst for change. this can only happen if and when, individuals, individually and collectively go through internal revolution that will later on manifest in real life situation, change. If we lay back and think that God will come down and make these changes, make this sweeping re-structuring happen, we are only deceiving our ownselves. “The only thing to fear is fear itself” –T. Rooselvelt.

We don’t have much time left to play this gibbrished games. Systemically gaming and rubbishing the system, looting the state treasury by security vote is one of the greatest crime in the land. Check before delivery!

CUOU
Oh, nobody is pretending that it will get better on its’ own. But if you hide under the guise of telling the truth, to insult & denigrate others, how does it solve the problem? You claim that: ‘Change can only occur, if people desire and thirst for change. this can only happen if and when, individuals, individually and collectively go through internal revolution that will later on manifest in real life situation, change’. Fine.

So tell us, is ‘name-calling’ a part of that revolution? From your choice of words, you have NOT advocated for change…you have merely advocated for the castigation of a man who has been long dead & buried. How this will act as a catalyst for change, beats me.

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Pity. We still do not understand one from the other.
The Igbo suffer a big truma, evidense of which is seen in their writing today couple with the shame of the loss. Yet the same Igbo can not understand the trauma of the Hausa/Fulani who never belief their god could not be killed by any man. That is all it takes, even if it is a carving that was worshipped.
No Yoruba can ever be generous enough to the Igbo. Obasanjo has given them positions they never had even under Balewa. They have service chief for the first time after the war. They still hate him. Banjo and Fajuyi died for them, would they die for a Yoruba man? Soyinka almost died for them. Yoruba soldiers fought on their side. Yoruba wives followed them to the East. Awolowo offerred them more than he gave himself, presidency. They rejected it. Awolowo kept a tape of conversation between him and Ojukwu, no promises – read his book. Ojukwu has never denied it. He gave every Igbo man and woman 20 pounds while pursuing their claims. This 20 pounds then will pay for five months rooming house in Lagos then. They turn it into a curse. Aba!
But Ojukwu wanted to appoint military governor for Lagos and approve West decisions with Banjo only in his dreams and others like him. Rule Nigeria or leave? Think!

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Dear Namio –

It does appear that you live in the moon with your remarks about what the VIPER, Awo did for Ndiigbo. Why not electronically and in print communicate his conversation with Dim Ojukwu about Declaring Republic of Oduduwa and what not. What do you know about Banjo? For your information it will take generations to launder Awo and Banjo for their opportunistics tendencies and actions. Check before delivery.

I agree with you on Soyinka and Fajiyi. These two men, names [ Soyinka and Faiyi] are highly respected in Igboland and beyond. But forget your papa Awo and Banjo, they will be indelibly be remembered for their greed and opportunitism. So rest that case. I have other things better to do than revisionists Awo and Banjo — Two VIPERS. Read which book? when did Awo write what was discussed in the meeting between himself and Ojukwu? Tell me. Is there any truth in whatever he wrote if ever he wrote anything on that topic? of course not. Opportunists will remain opportunists no matter the conditions. 20 pounds for rooming in Lagos for five months. You are the greatest joker I have seen and read. How did he end as Minister of Finance if he was not an opportunist? Of course if you and your Hausa-Fulani and others cannot support Igbo presidency, we are out door, of course. You should know that by now. there is nothing thinking or to think about it or something to think there. It is a pretty clear premise. If after 45 years later we cannot get the same shot like other two major tribes or nations then stay in your nation, Biafra is come. In 2006 Biafra stronger, better mobilized more than any other time. We like our chances, this is not 1966. Global strategy have changed. With Arabs in the North killing for OQeada and Cartoons published in Denmark, then you have much to think about not me/ and my kinsmen and kinswomen. Not this time. In my view, today we like our position in the scheme of things better than 1966 in terms of secession. Battlegrounds have changed; strategies have changed, British that supported you guys then, today will not in anyway support you again because of your terrorists activities and killings everywhere. So there will be no hiding place for you people. We will figure it out all together….

As for Vaya con Dios –

You know that you cannot dwell on your fabricated story about Dim. For your information Calabar and all river waterways and its peoples are our kinsmen and they know that pretty well. So stopping sowing your seed of hate among our people. this same seed of hate your feds sowed in 1966 will fail in 2006 and beyond. Calabar is part of our family and nothing you and your likes or feds can do to change that. Calabar means Caleb Abbar, sons or decendants of Caleb or sons of God. Abbar means God, Calab, means Caleb in its biblical terms.

Now, if equity and fairness is not feasible in Nigeria, out we go, period. And you will have no body to defraud and cheat from. Oil which you people are dying and killing for is in ouir land. About 90 % of this oil is found in Igbo speaking areas in the East. Go figure. Our lands have been depleted; our waters contaminated because of non-regulated oil-explorations or drillings. Foreign multinationals make more money than your enterprise, Nigeria. All four Nigerian Refinaries plants are in dilapidated conditions and thus cannot even produced fuel for its domestic consumptions let alone exports. What Nigeria, and looters export is crude oil.

Regarding one Emmanuel Chukura Achife stated: ”
Fast forward to this era in the country where most of us have access to school, live in towns and cities with relatively good transportation network yet some of us blame the country for their own personal failings and will wish Nigeria to fail just to prove their idiocy and lack of will power to affect changes. They are the Nigerian haters. These group of Nigerians who are hell bent in seeing the country fail are either living here in Nigeria or abroad…..
…. They see themselves above dirty hands and creativity and would rather have someone else do the job while they spend the days attacking and destroying the country that gave them so much for free and demanded nothing in return. They fall over themselves to prove through private conversations, print and electronic media on who is more hateful of the country as a way to prove their “intellectual” abilities”.

I can’t read what he wrote or was attempting to write. I guess he was talking about his fathers yam barn and what not. I guess he needs to go back to stone age to converse with them. Our kinsmen and kinswomen are being killed in Obi-oku, Odi, and Umu-aka, he is writing rubbish about yam barn or something. He needs to take classes because i noticed he was more concerned about individual’s effects and education or intellects of others rather than issues. He ended up talking about his father polygamism and forget that his father was breaking law of marriage, Christ’s teachings during his earthly ministry, was one man one wife. He should be ashamed advertizing his father,s or grandfathers polygamy practices for visitors and commentators to see. He should hide his face in shame and weep in the dark corner of the walls. If such writings tinkles your fancy then enjoy it. Some of us don’t have time for mediocrity and illiteracy. Nigeria today is besieged with these two or more elements: ignorance, illiteracy and mediocrity and all. The cure is Education, Education, Education all the way. that the way to go not yam barn et al.

Please don’t discuss what you don’t know or mix irrelevant conversations with relevant ones. Albeit, you are entitled to your views. But doing further studies on the article on this topic will be appropriate, please do that and then, come back and we can talk. thanks, I wish you day goes well today.

Shalom –
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Quote Originally Posted by Maazi Umunnah
As for Vaya con Dios –

You know that you cannot dwell on your fabricated story about Dim. For your information Calabar and all river waterways and its peoples are our kinsmen and they know that pretty well. So stopping sowing your seed of hate among our people. this same seed of hate your feds sowed in 1966 will fail in 2006 and beyond. Calabar is part of our family and nothing you and your likes or feds can do to change that. Calabar means Caleb Abbar, sons or decendants of Caleb or sons of God. Abbar means God, Calab, means Caleb in its biblical terms. CUOU
Ha ha ha!! Fabricated? In what way? The link to that story was supplied, Mazi. I suggest you go back to that story & re-read it. To the best of my knowledge (& I stand to be corrected), Dim Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu, the Ikemba of Nnewi has not refuted this statement. So why are you denying what is so clearly visible to everyone? You asked for proof. It was supplied. Now you turn round to claim it was fabricated. Na wa o!

As for sowing seeds of hate, Mazi you are one person who excels in this art!. By resorting to name-calling & villifying the names of the dead a.k.a Awolowo & Banjo, you have shown the world that you are an expert in this area. Bravo!

Another thing is this: Caleb Abbar is NOT an Igbo word. So what claims are you making? How is Calabar part of your family? Or am I missing something here? Kindly enlighten us.

Quote Originally Posted by Maazi Umunnah
Now, if equity and fairness is not feasible in Nigeria, out we go, period. And you will have no body to defraud and cheat from. Oil which you people are dying and killing for is in ouir land. About 90 % of this oil is found in Igbo speaking areas in the East. Go figure. Our lands have been depleted; our waters contaminated because of non-regulated oil-explorations or drillings. Foreign multinationals make more money than your enterprise, Nigeria. All four Nigerian Refinaries plants are in dilapidated conditions and thus cannot even produced fuel for its domestic consumptions let alone exports. What Nigeria, and looters export is crude oil. CUOU
Please do not play the sympathy card. If you talk of being cheated & defrauded, is there any tribe in Nigeria that has NOT been defrauded & cheated? Is it the Efiks that have not been cheated & their lands polluted? Is it the Anangs, the Ibibio & the Kalabari & Urhobo whose lands have NOT been polluted & cheated? Or is it the Ogoni or the Ijaw?

Please direct your claims for redress of pollution & contamination of your land, to the foreign multinationals. Your chest-beating in cyberspace, will not compel them to provide remediation measures, that will put your land back in shape.

Quote Originally Posted by Maazi Umunnah
Regarding one Emmanuel Chukura Achife stated: ”

I can’t read what he wrote or was attempting to write. I guess he was talking about his fathers yam barn and what not. I guess he needs to go back to stone age to converse with them. Our kinsmen and kinswomen are being killed in Obi-oku, Odi, and Umu-aka, he is writing rubbish about yam barn or something. He needs to take classes because i noticed he was more concerned about individual’s effects and education or intellects of others rather than issues. He ended up talking about his father polygamism and forget that his father was breaking law of marriage, Christ’s teachings during his earthly ministry, was one man one wife. He should be ashamed advertizing his father,s or grandfathers polygamy practices for visitors and commentators to see. He should hide his face in shame and weep in the dark corner of the walls. If such writings tinkles your fancy then enjoy it. Some of us don’t have time for mediocrity and illiteracy. Nigeria today is besieged with these two or more elements: ignorance, illiteracy and mediocrity and all. The cure is Education, Education, Education all the way. that the way to go not yam barn et al.
Oh you can’t be bothered to read up on information that will provide enlightenment or an alternative perspective? Wow! People who refuse to learn new things, end up losing even the little they have learnt before, because the world passes them by. Learning is a continuos process, that continues till eternity. The most succesful people in the world are those who learn new things everyday & implement it. But then, you are entitled to your own views. You can post your responses to Emmanuel Chukura Achife article, under the thread that was quoted.

You also made reference to Christ. Yes, what Jesus Christ preached is the truth. No doubt about that. But it does not change the fact that your ancestors (and mine for that matter) did NOT practise monogamy. Polygamy was their tradition at that time. So why are you disputing this? No one is asking you to become a polygamist.

But since you, “… can’t read what he wrote or was attempting to write.” like you stated above, why are you now passing comments, on something you have not read??

Quote Originally Posted by Maazi Umunnah
Please don’t discuss what you don’t know or mix irrelevant conversations with relevant ones. Albeit, you are entitled to your views. But doing further studies on the article on this topic will be appropriate, please do that and then, come back and we can talk. thanks, I wish you day goes well today. CUOU
On the contrary, you are the one who just confessed that, you haven’t read the article cited in my post. So what are you talking about?? You also told us that, ‘you don’t know’. So what you are supposed to be commenting on? In actual fact, you are actually the person who needs to do further studies, on the topic under discussion.

And as for talking to you…ehm, no thanks! Those who feel they know it all like you do, should be left in their own world of misconceptions. Don’t you think so?

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One has to be careful how one replies this Maazi for fear of offending good people. He may recognize Soyinka but can not even spell Fajuyi right because he matters less. Please go ask how much was the rooming house in good part of Lagos in those days when school cert salary was 15 pounds or less. You can get a room for less than 2 pounds in remote areas and about 5 pounds in good areas. Go ask, if you do not know. That 20 pounds was more than what most people came out of their villages with before they settled. It was a good gesture turned into a curse. People talk about it today as if it was a replacement for their property. Not every Igbo left property. Remember, there was no abadon properties in the West. Now, did you forget other Yoruba soldiers who fought along with Biafra soldiers? Or the wives of Biafra who followed them? What more can these Yoruba do for you. Can you stop paying back with hatred? Can any Igbo die for Yoruba? Any Igbo who loves Nigeria is a traitor. Other ethnic groups deserve their turn for President too. Maazi we love you.

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Commentator Namio & Vaya con Dios

I guess the same person with different pseudonym. God help mankind in his wayward ways.

You don’t know what love is; and you don’t know what you are talking about about 20 pounds. Oh, it will get you five months rooming and all. Even when you thousand hundred in your accounts. God save his children from fraudulent behaviors. Oh really no abundoned property in Lagos? nice. Now whether you are he or she, you are the greatest joke i have ever read, it looks like a lying tough. What about Suru-Lere? Igbo had a large population in that section of Lagos with properties before the war, and before we returned, Ijebu people took it over and called it Sure -Lere. Dim has to fight for his Queens Drive family property. What do you call that? abundoned profits. Soooooooooo what are you talking about? For me, that reveals how dishonest this place it.

And, by the way stop your flat-out generatization of Yoruba people. I was very specific in the names i mentioned. All Yoruba people are not bad, evil or treacherous as Awo and Banjo and Adekunle. Yes i cannot spell Fajuyi, that becomes another top for converation for you but yet, we love him, becos it takes a man to show integrity in defense of his friends. May Fajuyi’s soul rest in perfect peace.

Amazingly, if the wicked and opportunistic gestures by the viper,snake of all people: Awo, is your beau, good for you. It is not good for my kinsmen, women, elderly and children. i don’t know what you will be doing when these blood-suckers are killing your own fathers, mothers, elderly, brothers and sisters and young people across the country and you talk about love, that’s wickedness, not love dear friend. You pretty much have a different definition of love. Love what? like I said you don’t know what love is. You are dealing with enemies of God you are talking about love. If that is your perspective for love, God bless and yours.

Regarding your sympathy. Please for Christ sake, we don’t need your sympathy or anything of that nature. After the war Igbo for what they are known for, ingenuity-based, have rallied back and ready as always. You cannot take that from them they are God’s own people. I am only asking them to clean themselves up and live righteously and look up to Elohim, for that were our strength and help will come from, not from anything else. So your sympathy paralysis is irrelevant, thank you. What Igbo is asking for if fairness, equality and good governance for all its citizens. Nigeria is a British fraud, when they were leaving they handed their fraudulent practices to fraudulent groups. We are different people, but if we cannot live, respect diversity and live together honestly devoid of chameleonism, treachery and all, it is better we go our individual ways peacefully. Your brother Obasanjo, has just given away Bakassi to Cameroon, and as a freign gatekeeper, his Europeans matters were clapping for him at the UN Secretariat. Bakassi, a Biafran territory turned into a compassion pea by Gowon to win a war. Remember this, Bakassi is Biafran territory and it has been given away due to charmelonism, criminality and stupidity of Gowon.

Regarding Calabar, they are part of eastern family. If you don’t know, we are Hebrews. yes the entire, former eastern region are Hebrews, from Benue to Calabar and Rivers. Even part of Ondo are Igbo. We have done our research and materials and other documentations are showcasing this disposition and we like our chances, lets see how things plays out in 2007. Even Urhobo are descendants of Aba-Ngwa the elephant town. They will tell you that as well. I hope this will satisfy you so that you can go in peace and turn to your other cores. We Biafrans are stronger, better organized today and fully mobilized more than any other time in history. it is not chest beating. it is a fact. It is our turn to rule this country called Nigeria. if our extraction, after forty five years of its checkered experimental exixtence cannot be given the chance like others to show the way, it’s over with, that’s all.

All we are doing is to remind everybody, put you all on notice, and perhaps, persude those who want to listen to support the Igbo presidency come 2007. Ebutu Ukiwe is a polished indivdual and will make a good president. We are not kidding. If our kinsmen in River waterways got a shot at presidency, it is fine with Igbo because it is one and the samething, one family. It is one family, under God. Odili is Igbo, his deputy is Igbo, Maazi Gabriel Tamuonye-ibiegbere Toby [GTG], His mother is from Aba-Ngwa, he is my father’s sister’s son; my father’s nephew. Soo keep your division piece to yourselves. thank you and God bless. May He bless you according to your faith in Him; according to your position on truth, justice, equaity, particularly truth, which truth is self-evident, that truth shall set mankind free.

Go in peace …………….
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Commentator Namio & Vaya con Dios

I guess the same person with different pseudonym. God help mankind in his wayward ways.
Eh? What on earth gave you this idea? I have no resemblance to anyone called Namio. If you can’t read clearly or have difficulty understanding this minute detail, I can lend you my pair of glasses o!

Quote Originally Posted by Umunnah
You don’t know what love is; and you don’t know what you are talking about about 20 pounds. Oh, it will get you five months rooming and all. Even when you thousand hundred in your accounts. God save his children from fraudulent behaviors. Oh really no abundoned property in Lagos? nice. Now whether you are he or she, you are the greatest joke i have ever read, it looks like a lying tough. What about Suru-Lere? Igbo had a large population in that section of Lagos with properties before the war, and before we returned, Ijebu people took it over and called it Sure -Lere. Dim has to fight for his Queens Drive family property. What do you call that? abundoned profits. Soooooooooo what are you talking about? For me, that reveals how dishonest this place it. !
Since I don’t know what love is, perhaps you can enlighten everyone on this site. You are so good at preaching hatred that am suprised you know how to spell the word “love.” As for the abandoned property in Lagos, kindly list all the areas where there were cases of Igbo people having abandoned property. For your information, Suru-lere was in existence long before the civil war! But since you claim it was re-named, please tell us what the former name was…it would let us know if this claim is a piece of fact or fiction.

Last time we checked, Rivers state was where the greatest amount of abandoned property saga took place. Ask Chief Gabriel Tamuonye-Ibiegbere Toby, who is from that area. Am sure he can furnish you with facts & figures from the archives of that great state.

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And, by the way stop your flat-out generatization of Yoruba people. I was very specific in the names i mentioned. All Yoruba people are not bad, evil or treacherous as Awo and Banjo and Adekunle. Yes i cannot spell Fajuyi, that becomes another top for converation for you but yet, we love him, becos it takes a man to show integrity in defense of his friends. May Fajuyi’s soul rest in perfect peace.
On the contrary, you are the one that has been generalising about Yoruba people. Oh, you love Fajuyi, do you? How come when the last memorial service for fajuyi was held in Ado-Ekiti, most of your folks did NOT even bother to attend…..

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Amazingly, if the wicked and opportunistic gestures by the viper,snake of all people: Awo, is your beau, good for you. It is not good for my kinsmen, women, elderly and children. i don’t know what you will be doing when these blood-suckers are killing your own fathers, mothers, elderly, brothers and sisters and young people across the country and you talk about love, that’s wickedness, not love dear friend. You pretty much have a different definition of love. Love what? like I said you don’t know what love is. You are dealing with enemies of God you are talking about love. If that is your perspective for love, God bless and yours.
Kindly let the dead rest in peace. You are still castigating a dead man…only God knows what you intend to achieve with this belly-aching. But if it makes you feel happy, please go ahead…maybe that’s how you get your kicks.

If you want to know why Awo is venerated in the south-West, ask his disciples.

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Regarding your sympathy. Please for Christ sake, we don’t need your sympathy or anything of that nature. After the war Igbo for what they are known for, ingenuity-based, have rallied back and ready as always. You cannot take that from them they are God’s own people. I am only asking them to clean themselves up and live righteously and look up to Elohim, for that were our strength and help will come from, not from anything else. So your sympathy paralysis is irrelevant, thank you. What Igbo is asking for if fairness, equality and good governance for all its citizens. Nigeria is a British fraud, when they were leaving they handed their fraudulent practices to fraudulent groups. We are different people, but if we cannot live, respect diversity and live together honestly devoid of chameleonism, treachery and all, it is better we go our individual ways peacefully. Your brother Obasanjo, has just given away Bakassi to Cameroon, and as a freign gatekeeper, his Europeans matters were clapping for him at the UN Secretariat. Bakassi, a Biafran territory turned into a compassion pea by Gowon to win a war. Remember this, Bakassi is Biafran territory and it has been given away due to charmelonism, criminality and stupidity of Gowon.
No one has offered them sympathy……and if it there is anyone playing the sympathy card, it is you! If the Igbo are asking for fairness, equality and good governance, let them do so simply, honestly & sincerely without launching a tirade against other groups or tribes, and without villifying the dead! Na wa o! Good governance starts from within. Ask your local govt. chairmen, councillors, legislators & governors in the South-East to set a paradigm for good governance in their areas, which can be used as a model. We have seen the commendable efforts of the leaders in non-Igbo areas, like Donald Duke’s Cross-River state. And we are impressed. We hope all other governors can take a cue from him…

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Regarding Calabar, they are part of eastern family. If you don’t know, we are Hebrews. yes the entire, former eastern region are Hebrews, from Benue to Calabar and Rivers. Even part of Ondo are Igbo. We have done our research and materials and other documentations are showcasing this disposition and we like our chances, lets see how things plays out in 2007. Even Urhobo are descendants of Aba-Ngwa the elephant town. They will tell you that as well. I hope this will satisfy you so that you can go in peace and turn to your other cores. We Biafrans are stronger, better organized today and fully mobilized more than any other time in history. it is not chest beating. it is a fact. It is our turn to rule this country called Nigeria. if our extraction, after forty five years of its checkered experimental exixtence cannot be given the chance like others to show the way, it’s over with, that’s all.
Calabar people are Igbo?? Chei!Since when?? Abeg, when did they stop being Efiks, Ibibio, Anang etc. ? Have they renounced their language & ethnic nationality? Please Mazi, stick to the facts. Don’t embarrass the good people of Calabar, by calling them what they are not. Yes…they live in the Eastern part of Nigeria…but how they are now part of the family of an Igbo man, is what I still can’t understand.

And as for your laughable claims that Ondo is part of Igbo, nothing could be further from the truth!! Mazi Umunna, please stop flinging unsubstantiated claims around in Cyberspace! It is ridiculous…

Last time I checked, the Ondo people were part & parcel of the Yoruba people that you hate so much. That entire clan speak a dialect of Yoruba language, they bear Yoruba names & name their kids according to Yoruba tradition. So stop making them what they are NOT! I have never seen an Ondo man claiming to be Igbo!

You keep calling yourselves Biafrans, yet you are seeking for the presidency of Nigeria….um, I just don’t get it! Isn’t this a contradiction..??

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All we are doing is to remind everybody, put you all on notice, and perhaps, persude those who want to listen to support the Igbo presidency come 2007. Ebutu Ukiwe is a polished indivdual and will make a good president. We are not kidding. If our kinsmen in River waterways got a shot at presidency, it is fine with Igbo because it is one and the samething, one family. It is one family, under God. Odili is Igbo, his deputy is Igbo, Maazi Gabriel Tamuonye-ibiegbere Toby [GTG], His mother is from Aba-Ngwa, he is my father’s sister’s son; my father’s nephew. Soo keep your division piece to yourselves. thank you and God bless.
If villifying other tribes, is your method of claiming support for your presidential ambition, then you have missed the road! Successful campaigns are run by negotiation, conciliation and rapproachment…not slander. Am sure Chief Gabriel Tamuonye-Ibiegbere Toby, whose candidature you are proposing, would not endorse this mode of campaign, that you have embarked upon here.

You have often canvassed for a Biafran nation, so am suprised that you have now made a U-turn to seek for a South-Eastern or South-South presidency! Wonders shall never end! Is it the same Nigeria that you have described in such despicable terms using words that could only have come from a ghetto, that you want your people to rule??!! Am amazed.

Thank God, that a lot of Igbo do not think like you do. Many of them are enlightened, amiable & tolerant. But obviously, you are not one of them…

Oh, by the way….I wish you luck in your campaign for Chief Gabriel Tamuonye-Ibiegbere Toby.

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From what you sent about Surulere, I realize I was talking to Ignoramus. Bye!

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Dear Vaya con Dios –

I like you style. You are missing a lot of things up. 1] I Biafra campaign will happen if this arrangement doesn’t straighten itself uprightly, fairly and squarely. GTG Toby is not a Chief, he prefers to be address as Sir, thusly Sir GTG Toby; I don’t where you got your chieftaincy title for him from; It’s his brother that is thirst for chieftancy all the time. Emmanuel George Toby [E.G. Toby]. So my dear brother or sister stick to facts and as it is more susciptible and workable for all. If Hebrew language has be bastardized doesn’t mean they are not our family. I have shown respect and kindness to you and I appreciate you response as well as long as it stays within the confines of decency.

If i was back home and Fajuyi remembrance was held and i have the capacity to attend I will attend. I can only speak for myself and not the entire Igbo race or nation. I am not canvassing for Toby I said Ebitu Ukiwe. Toby has to become Governor first if possible for him. I think he will make a good governor. I apologize if you are not Naimo, my fault. I apologize to the Naimo though she just called me name yonder disappeared, fine!

After for Awo – the viper, am not asking anybody about him in your South West; you people can keep up there. You cannot sleep with a leper and become clean, very impossible. I am not agree with you, am agree with the fraud committed against this people, that’s all. Awo, Banjo, Adekunle forget it, these are done deal you cannot launder them, only Christ can if they repent fo their crime against humanity. Shalom.

Suru-Lere and Dim’s Queen’s Drive were either taken by some of your people and the system run by them in Lagos. My friend am baba Eko, just know that. I was born there. Awo problems doesn’t make is feel any good. Iam only telling the truth as it is. I have nothing against, but for goodness sake don’t defend a viper. He was/is a viper. I actually they stoned him in Aba-Ngwa in 1978 when he came for campaign and he had to run with his helcopter. Check before delivery. Thanks and God bless you my friend.

Dear Namio –

I guess you are a lovely sister or brother. With the way you came and jumped the podium or platform shows you are woman and perhaps very tempramental. I am wrong on Suru lere then correct me. Only Suru lere you threw away the child and the birthwater. Seeeeeeeeeeeeee that’s why Nigeria should be divided we cannot get along at all. People are too angry; either they get upset and they will try to kill you. How come known of responded to the killings of Igbo everywhere; and someone somewhere is talknig about reconciliation and conflict management and all. No wonder Obasanjo will insult National assembly withdraw money from Federal excess oil bloc fund without going through National Assembly. Indeed, we have a long way to go; long indeed.

Soooooooooooo my dear Namio, you see you through out your ignoramus adjective i guess and ran away but i am still patient with you since you are very tempramental and all. But,it is okay; it help us were each other is coming from. Have you read the 5 billion dollar and June 12, part I. You may want to check it out; it is there for your consideration. Iife is beautiful thing and we can live better, if we, each of appreciates its essence and do better sometimes and always.

I wish you have a wonderful evening. Please don’t forget to tell, teach me more about Suru lere and which group or race had a larger population there before civil war. Be well.

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Dear Vaya con Dios –
I like you style. You are missing a lot of things up. 1] I Biafra campaign will happen if this arrangement doesn’t straighten itself uprightly, fairly and squarely. GTG Toby is not a Chief, he prefers to be address as Sir, thusly Sir GTG Toby; I don’t where you got your chieftaincy title for him from; It’s his brother that is thirst for chieftancy all the time. Emmanuel George Toby [E.G. Toby]. So my dear brother or sister stick to facts and as it is more susciptible and workable for all. If Hebrew language has be bastardized doesn’t mean they are not our family. I have shown respect and kindness to you and I appreciate you response as well as long as it stays within the confines of decency.
Oh so Gabriel Tamuonye-Ibiegbere Toby, is not a “chief?” A thousand apologies o!

And as for the facts, Maazi, you have shown through your replies that you know very little about the ethnic composition of your neighbours. You claim if Hebrew language has be bastardized doesn’t mean they are not our family. Erm…are you sure your Ijaw, Kalabari, Efik, Ibibio, Annang neighbours will agree with this assertion? Why are you relying on a Hebrew connection to prove kinship with these people? Each group has a distinct identity, language & culture which is different from that of the Igbo. But then…you are trying to water down their identity, by claiming that they are what they are NOT! Careful, Mazi….

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Dear Vaya con Dios –
If i was back home and Fajuyi remembrance was held and i have the capacity to attend I will attend. I can only speak for myself and not the entire Igbo race or nation. I am not canvassing for Toby I said Ebitu Ukiwe. Toby has to become Governor first if possible for him. I think he will make a good governor. I apologize if you are not Naimo, my fault. I apologize to the Naimo though she just called me name yonder disappeared, fine!
Oh, you are campaigning for Ebitu Ukiwe & endorsing GTG Toby for…..what? His deputy? Kindly be more explicit. I wish you a lot of luck…because you are going to need it. The kind of tactics, you are using to push your candidates into the public conciousness, is NOT going to endear them to anybody. It is obvious that you are only endorsing GTG Toby, because he is a relative of yours, from Aba-Ngwa and happens to be your father’s sister’s son….. Would you have endorsed him, if he wasn’t?

You cannot tar other tribes with a demeaning brush in one breath, and expect them to support your candidates in the next breath.

As for Fajuyi’s next memorial….let’s hope you will be there when it comes up.

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After for Awo – the viper, am not asking anybody about him in your South West; you people can keep up there. You cannot sleep with a leper and become clean, very impossible. I am not agree with you, am agree with the fraud committed against this people, that’s all. Awo, Banjo, Adekunle forget it, these are done deal you cannot launder them, only Christ can if they repent fo their crime against humanity. Shalom.

Suru-Lere and Dim’s Queen’s Drive were either taken by some of your people and the system run by them in Lagos. My friend am baba Eko, just know that. I was born there. Awo problems doesn’t make is feel any good. Iam only telling the truth as it is. I have nothing against, but for goodness sake don’t defend a viper. He was/is a viper. I actually they stoned him in Aba-Ngwa in 1978 when he came for campaign and he had to run with his helcopter. Check before delivery.
Here we go again! Aren’t you tired of beating the drums of hatred? You call a dead man whose people swear by his achievements in their locality, a ‘viper’, and you think that when the time comes for them to speak through the ballot box, they will support your candidates? Get real! You will have to do better than that!

On a final note, why are you blowing the trumpet of falsehood? Surulere was and still is, a district located within Lagos state. So how on earth did it become a land that was ‘taken by some of your people and the system run by them in Lagos?. Was it ever a part of the Eastern states? Please if you want people to take you seriously, kindly stop peddling fiction & brandishing it as fact!

Queen’s Drive in Ikoyi was also part of Lagos (and it is still a part of Lagos state) in the South-western part of Nigeria. It was one of the exclusive areas of Lagos, where the colonial masters, senior civil servants and wealthy industrialists from different parts of the country lived. If you go to the Land Registry of Lagos & do a study of those who have held property in this area, you will get proof of this fact. Contrary to the impression you are trying to give, it was NOT an Igbo enclave! Several houses dotted the streets! In fact, one of the old industrialists who lived there, was Chief S.B Bakare whose white house was called Ijesha Lodge. It is still there, till today! That was where Chief Olusegun Obasanjo went, when the coup of Murtala Mohammed took place in 1976, as was reported in the Press then.

If you have nothing better to do….than to recycle misinformation….well, others do!

You claim to be Baba Eko….yet your knowledge of the city & its’ inhabitants, is so shallow, poor…and dismal.

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